logan607: Creepy

logan607 (

logan607) wrote,
@ 2008-05-28 07:33:00

Current location:	bed
Current mood:	exhausted
Entry tags:	dating, discussion, single life

Creepy

Late Monday night, got the most creepy phone call ever from HeartGirl - or, rather, from her and her hella creepy friend. Wanted to take a shower afterwards.

Speaking of which, I met seven women this long weekend. I've been told that the reason I meet so many people is that I've got a really low "creepiness factor." All ~~men~~ people have it; some more than others.

Consider this: HEI had some guy she vaguely knows recently wait on her doorstep unannounced with flowers and wine. He mighta been there for hours. In Hollywood, that's romantic. In the real world, that's creepy. Let's review, shall we?

Standing outside your ex's home holding a boombox belting out Peter Gabriel.

Hollywood: Romantic

Real life: Creepy (and stalkerish)

Meeting a girl for 10 minutes and telling her that you're her soulmate.

Hollywood: Romantic

Real life: Creepy (and pathetic)

Telling someone that they "complete you."This one I particularly loathe - cause who wants someone that isn't whole on their own?

Hollywood: Romantic

Real life: Creepy (and lame)

Following a girlie around a bar all night because you spoke to her for five minutes.

Hollywood: Creepy - Look, even Hollywood thinks this is creepy. Don't do it.
Real life: Creepy (and something I see every week)

Seriously, there is no line you can say to a girlie, no shirt you can wear, no drink you can buy that will change your ability to talk to a girl than lowering your creepy factor. How to do this is a whole 'nother story.

BTW, HeartGirl called me twice to apologize for her friend; I called her back and we spoke. I think I forgive her. Dunno yet. But I thought it was brave of her to call me back twice to say she was sorry. You get points for being brave in this life.

And because...I know what it's like to wanna be forgiven for the stupid mistakes we make. For the awful, awful things we say and do to one another.

Man, I know that oh so well.

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	sabatoa 2008-05-28 11:54 am UTC (link)
	Creepy is such a funny word, just writing it down kinda gives me the creeps. "Late Monday night, got the most creepy phone call ever from HeartGirl - or, rather, from her and her hella creepy friend. Wanted to take a shower afterwards" Boy would that make an amazing phone post here, assuming no personal info was on the message. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	logan607 2008-05-28 02:27 pm UTC (link)
	It wasn't anything I could or wanted to keep and there was no personal information about her - just about me. It was terrible, I don't want to hear it again. You see a lot of creepy as a single guy in NYC. (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

	sabatoa 2008-05-28 02:30 pm UTC (link)
	Well, here's to the day when you can no longer count yourself among those ranks then. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	kemidra 2008-05-28 12:18 pm UTC (link)
	I have a group of male friends who can go on at some length about how Say Anything ruined their social lives by giving them unrealistic expectations about what is and what is not considered sweet and romantic. What the movie does not tell you is that you pretty much have to be John Cusack to pull any of that off. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	logan607 2008-05-28 02:28 pm UTC (link)
	I don't even think John Cusack could pull it off in real life. Unless he was constantly trailed by some sort of script doctor. (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

	kemidra 2008-05-28 02:30 pm UTC (link)
	For some reason your comment reminded me of this comic. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	benlbr 2008-05-28 01:19 pm UTC (link)
	i find that acting aloof and uninterested generally attracts more women...in my experience at least. i think that most women think they want hollywood, but it's actually the opposite that appeals to them more in real life. so you are correct in all fronts, my friend. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	logan607 2008-05-28 02:30 pm UTC (link)
	I know I'm right because I see and hear it all the time out and about. Women and men think they want Hollywood when reality is nothing like it. (Reply to this) (Parent)

houses7177
2008-05-28 03:47 pm UTC (link)

In college, I lived in Georgetown and walked everywhere. One day, a fellow followed me home from the pharmacy, and about halfway back he actually caught up with me and talked to me. His name was Cricket and he had an electric blue goatee [at the time, this would have intrigued me as it would have matched my hair, which was a combination of blue/green/purple]. He asked me out when I got to my house, I politely said no as I was dating someone, but found it flattering. It wasn't nearly as creepy as it could have been, but if this happened to me now I'd be calling the cops rather than leading him to my abode, but I'm older, wiser and much more married.

Then again, I had a French Army parachutist bycicle 20 km to the rural farmhouse I was staying in after seeing me down a hallway to say it was love at first sight and would I marry him. I was 17, he was 25, and my colloquial French did not include the words for 'love at first sight' etc. It was one of the most bizarre conversations I have ever had in my entire life, him speaking, me flipping madly through my phrase book trying to figure out what the hell was happening and why this guy appeared out of nowhere. I politely declined, he burst into tears and send me letters for the next year asking me to reconsider. It was surreal, but I didn't find it creepy at the time. Sad and pathetic, maybe, and more than a little bizarre.

I should add that I grew up with parents who went on three dates and got married, and are still happily married 35 years later...And my father proposed to her after waiting on her doorstep for a few hours until she came home from a date with another guy. He drove three hours to get there and had no idea what she'd say. She said yes, they were married a month later, and the rest is history. He always said he just knew, and so did she though she also thought she's temporarily lost her mind. It was during Vietnam and my dad was in the Army so this may be a tale of the times as much as anything, but it is one of those family stories that defines romance for me.

[edited because my computer jumped the posting gun before I was done writing]

Edited at 2008-05-28 03:51 pm UTC

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	logan607 2008-05-28 07:59 pm UTC (link)
	Gotta say that your first two stories are the prototypical creepy my friends and I think is so sad. As for your parents, those were different times and my parents have a similar story. Things are a bit muddier nowadays I think. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	girlsgirlsgirls 2008-05-28 04:20 pm UTC (link)
	I'm the opposite. What are you going to do, though? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	logan607 2008-05-28 07:59 pm UTC (link)
	Sleep-wise? I haven't the foggiest... (Reply to this) (Parent)

aranka
2008-05-28 11:34 pm UTC (link)

Hahaha. Okay here's what I want you to do for me: round up all the men in the world. Have them gather in a large inescapable plaza and yell the above at them through a megaphone several times in every language you know. Then hand the microphone to someone else who knows other languages and have them reiterate. You're totally right. Every last one of those and a number of others has happened to me in the course of my apparently not that weirdass life. And . . . I grudgingly admit there are creepy girls but there's this weird and misguided notion that an action like the above performed by a guy as opposed to a girl is romantic or macho. But . . . not so much. Creepy = creepy regardless of gender. Also . . . I'm not one for machismo either.

And as for your other thing, I have a low tolerance for stupid but that was indeed brave of her to take responsibility for it twice. I know nothing of her or you but from what you've said here accept the apology for the stupid and move on.

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	logan607 2008-05-29 01:02 am UTC (link)
	I'm going to take the apology; it just takes time because her words were so raw and so dissimilar from what I was expecting from her. As for grouping of the men, it's difficult to agree on anything with others. (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

aranka
2008-05-29 07:23 am UTC (link)

I don't know the situation, but usually with people there's always a largely invisible undercurrent. That it came out rawly means it needed addressing and her friend was probably just catalyst. I dunno what's going on but she obviously cares about her relationship with you but whatever it is can't just be ignored.

Aw c'mon! You could have like . . . a "man symposium." And then later address prostrate health and engage in greco-roman wrestling or whatever it is you guys do when you're alone with each other.

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	mary_lennox 2008-05-29 12:44 am UTC (link)
	Well, what about the most awesome line ever (As Good as it Gets)... "You make me want to be a better man." - I think that's rather romantic, don't you? Also - you really should check out a good sleep clinic, with some steady therapy, you'll be sleeping like a baby again. :) (Reply to this) (Thread)

	logan607 2008-05-29 01:04 am UTC (link)
	I didn't see it - I suppose that all lines may possibly work but I find that reality doesn't mesh well with Hollywood. I do wish, though, I did have those Hollywood-type endings. That'd be nice. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	mittenhat 2008-05-29 12:58 am UTC (link)
	why didn't you write one for the guy who creates a fake online persona, then uses it to stalk & anonymously communicate with a girl via her rosalind russell youtube account? hollywood: bad plot device ("maybe we can meet downtown sometime and talk about film!") real life: creepy. and poorly executed! (Reply to this) (Thread)

	logan607 2008-05-29 01:05 am UTC (link)
	Ooooh, that would have been a good one - I didn't think of it. That's gotta be the ultimate in creepy. Ugh, what's going on in his mind? BTW, I'm still in my office. I hate everything. (Reply to this) (Parent)

turtle5485
2008-05-29 05:41 am UTC (link)

ew, i hate creepy guys!!! creepy guys are the worst type of guy. I would choose pervert/douchbag guy over creepy guy anyday!

one of my girlfriends once had a creepy psycho guy outside our apartment with flowers and all her favorite foods. he would NOT go away! We tried to lie and say she wasn't home, but he said, "No, I know she's home I see her car parked outside!"

That's what tasers are for.

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	logan607 2008-05-29 01:23 pm UTC (link)
	I'm not going to lie to you - when I was younger (a LOT younger) I'd actually done something like that. I'm very ashamed. Damn that Hollywood. Some people, though, never grow out of childhood... (Reply to this) (Parent)

	hapadoll 2008-05-29 09:26 am UTC (link)
	I'm there with you. Recently, someone found out my mother's entire name, where I used to stay AND where I stay now from googling a combination of info about me. I'm still creeped out. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	logan607 2008-05-29 01:24 pm UTC (link)
	OK, now that's insane... (Reply to this) (Parent)

	vagabondshoes 2008-06-04 02:55 am UTC (link)
	YES - I've met my share of creeps/stalkers (phone/email stalkers, not real-life stalkers...) (Reply to this) (Thread)

	logan607 2008-06-04 04:41 pm UTC (link)
	I'm sorry to hear that! =( Hello there, how did you find me? I'm always curious about these things... (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

	vagabondshoes 2008-06-04 10:57 pm UTC (link)
	I found you through lj user sometimessome (don't know the code to make it link), who I don't actually know, but she found me somehow a couple years ago or so on lj. Anyway, I read a comment from you on her journal and I found whatever it was to be amusing, interesting, or both, so there you have it :) (Reply to this) (Parent)

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